Spammer Jeremy Jaynes Gets 9 Year Jail Sentence

I think this Spammer Lover Judge Thomas Horne that dismissed the sentense should have his Phone number, mailing address and email address posted publically so all the spammers, junk mailers and teleterrorists can flood his spammer loving butt with teleterrorist calls, junk mail and spam.

I have an idea to get help get rid of these spammers. Using "the curse of google". Whenever google changes its logo on its websites front page to a search link, the site at the top usually gets a hell of a lot more traffic than expected and goes down. Surely google could link to a search that puts one of the spam sites at the top and take it down. It would be like google in command of a big army. Or they could put a little link that says to be cautious of a certain site. If it's on google's front page then the ammount of clicks would be immense.

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I see so many comments about getting nine years for sending spam and deserving it, or, getting nine years for sending spam while rapists, murderers, and the like get a slap on the wrist. If you look at the actual crimes committed, Jeremy was convicted of fraud in which he was generating $750,000 a month through illegal activities. While SPAM is at the center of the debate, the real crime is that so many viewers have not read past the headlines and have turned it into a debate about a separate issue. If SPAM were a crime punishable by imprisonment, many corporate execs would change their company policies overnight. I don't see that happening anytime soon but the millions of Americans who have lost money to fraud will applaud the day that Jeremy serves out his sentence.
For those who feel that Jeremy did nothing wrong and should be acquitted, send a check or money order to his defense attorney and pick up some mustard or ketchup to go with your plate of SPAM!

For those of you who think it serves him rights. Have you all gone completly mad? We're talking freaking NINE (9) YEARS!!! I mean, getting butt-raped for 9 months is cruel and unusual punishment for the type of 'crime' he committed. Damn, it could be your own stupid brother who tries sending some mail. Who would have seen 9 years coming? Who is the injured party anyway? I mean, how much harm can he have caused those people? I get spam every freaking day, and how much harm does it cause me? I'd wish noone get 9 years. I think a fine or something would be more reasonable. Better yet, communal service, because that benefits us all. Now he's going to COST US, because you know what? The penetentary system is not free, tax payer!

Cocidering he made a huge amount of money in just a short amount of time I think it should be concidered fraud. Mr. Jaynes should go to jail for 9 years and he should be forced to pay a huge fine and SPAMMER should be tatooed on his forehead and remain there while he is in jail and two years afterward. After the two years he can get it removed at his expense.

A better punishment would be to make him send an apology to everyone he spammed one at a time 10,000 a day for how many days/years he spammed and must be hand typed not copy and pasted. Also pay whatever he earned to charity. That'll learn em durn em.

I don't quite understand what he has been convicted for. Has he been given 9 years for sending emails to people who didnt request it or is it for tricking people into buying things that didn't exist or something. Was he the one running the fraud in the emails or did he sell his service of spamming to other people who were commiting the fraud?

The whole thing is one endless scam. You start with greedy amoral bastards ramming their garbage down the throats of everyone on the internet. Next, you have greedy amoral bastards collecting â??protection moneyâ?? to block the first group of bastards. This second group doesnâ??t want spam to actually stop because then they would have to get real jobs. Now we have a judge weighing in on the case. He wants to make it look like his paycheck is justified, but at the same time he doesnâ??t want to actually stop the crime because that would cut into his paycheck. (The real reason why the courts let so many thieves, rapists and murderers off with little or no punishment is because if they did the right thing for society then we would only need 1/3 the judges/lawyers that we have now. Everybody wants their cut). The final part of the problem as to why the spam/spyware problem isnâ??t going away is because so many so-called â??legitimateâ?? organizations want to use it (like somehow their s*** smells better). They donâ??t mind the billions of dollars this plague is costing the economy as long as they get their own message out.

Instead of protecting society, the wolves are figuring out the best way to divide the sheep in order to maximize their own personal profit. The spammer will make their money from spamming, the spam filters will block just enough spam to make you pay for their service, the courts will prosecute just enough to justify adding a few more $100,000/year lawyers to their staff, and the marketing director at the dildo-factory will get his bonus. Everyone will be happy except the 99.99% of us who just want to read our email in peace.

If we really wanted to eliminate spam, we could do it in six months:
1) Pass zero-tolerance laws for unsolicited email. $10,000 and 1 day in prison for the Board of directors for each infraction (10 million spams per day- you do the math).
2) Pass laws to put 100% of the onus on proving that you are not a spammer onto the spammer. This trend of spammers suing spam filtering and spyware removal companies in order to force these companies to let the spammerâ??s garbage through or spyware remain is asinine. My computer is my property and I should have the uncontested right to buy a product to remove any damn program I want.
3) Widespread use of services such as â??make love not spamâ?? which would allow us to DOS those spamming bastards into oblivion.
4) Full-scale blocking of IP addresses from known spammers.
5) Holding people legally accountable for what comes from their own computer. If some idiot doesnâ??t bother to put in the latest security patches and as a result spammers take over his computer and use it to distribute their crap, then that idiot should face some consequences.

I have nothing against solicited advertising. (my week would not be complete without knowing the latest one-way cost of a plane ticket to Fiji). But if email is to remain a useful tool, spam must be crushed.

Coming from the perspective of someone who has been in jail, a nine year sentence is highly inappropriate. Spam is wrong, a serious annoyance, but, on an individual basis, no more than that. Now, on a larger scale, ISP providers lose millions dealing with the problem. Assign a monetary value to the crime, and make him start paying it back by working on spam filters or other research. In jail, WE pay for his every need, and nine years will ruin most white collar criminals. In jail there is no way for society to reclaim it's due. On probation, with court ordered work in exchange for the fine, society may be able to get something in return. To put a guy in jail for sending too many emails, that is a waste of my money, and of his life. Although, most ISP Providers would love to see spammers get butt-raped for nine years, I think that it's a little extreme.

9 years, not enough time! Phishers are Spam + Fraud by misrepresentation, Spam is how you received it.
Besides, I would guess this being a non-violent crime, he would never
serve the entire sentence. Therefore I say make it 15 years and no parole. Remember, the longer he is in jail, the longer he can't spam all of us again. I consider that a big benifit.

Spammer Jeremy Jaynes Gets 9 Year Jail Sentence. Wishfull thinking.

Spam is worse than ever. My AOL account draws 1,000 (yes, ONE THOUSAND) spams a minute. It's become totally useless a a business tool. Spams comes from all over the world, baskets at a time. Got to do more than canning Jeremy. Problem pretty much with the ISP's that tollerates the nonsense. Charlie (Los Angeles).

I would personally like to see him shot out of a canon into some glass

9 Years is great, but its pretty screwed up that rapists and murderers sometimes get less of a sentence. Way to go USA!

The jail term has been delayed somewhat as the circuit Judge Thomas Horne thought that the law is new and raises constitutional questions.

This is not for Judge Horne to decide. This is for the appellate court(s) to decide.

Judge Hornes' job was to rule on the case before him, i.e. the criminal prosecution of a spammer. Any questions regarding the constituionality, etc. of the law(s) under which Mr. Jaynes was/were prosecuted are not the concern of Judge Horne.

IMO Judge Horne has overstepped his authority, and should be removed from the bench.

It is about time something is being done and I think if the sentence of 9 years goes through, it will be well justified. For those saying he should not go to jail, perhaps you need to examine the facts again: He sent 10 MILLION junk emails A DAY! Much of this was pornographic material, and the FED EX refund scam was fraud! Imagine if every online business, or even if every marketing company sent out 10 million emails a day?
A strong message needs to be sent out to those that send out porn emails and other junk and scams, especially when you never asked for it in the first place. It may not be a big deal to you, but this stuff is sent to random emails which could mean your grandmother, mother wife or daugher has to put up with having porn arrive in their mailbox daily.
I would send this man to jail longer, and the smaller time operations should be sent to jail for at least 5 years. The people are tired of spam and it's well past the time to do something about it.

I'm very confused as to why the legal environment won't do anything about spammers and Phishers?

Spammers aren't the worst offenders. While the cost the econnomy hundreds of millions of dollars, I've had very convincing phishers almost get my personal info. And I'm tech savy!! Spammers are pests, Phishers are criminal. Spammer=5 years, Phishers=20 Years

For the end user, you can filter out spam and be 100% effective about it. I used to get hundreds of junk emails per day, and now I don't see a single one in my inbox. I use a program that works 100% of the time. You can try it for free at www.snipurl.com/5gky - it has made my email manageable again. Of course, this does not help at the ISP level because the junk email is still being received by them. For that, I don't have an answer, other than more jail sentences such as what we just heard about. Each spammer should be assigned a 2-person cell, with a cellmate that is in there for life.

I think we need to refer to SINO Vs Chine reality corporation for a realistic view on this case..

I think we need to refer to SINO Vs Chine reality corporation for a realistic view on this case..

We are at war. Can anything that slows down the flow of legitimate information be considered treason-like behaviour?

Jail time is okay but not in years maybe in months or weeks. It should, however, be combined with HUGE fines. After all money is what these guys do it for. And the small jail time is enough to take away their dignity.

Jail for the Fraud Yes. Jail most ESPECIALLY for the Porno to minors. But jail for junk mail? NAH Heck if they sent everyone to jail who initiated junk mail, Spam or similar then the postal service's of the world would go broke in a day. (Yes I know that the intenet is MOSTLY free but you get the idea)

Spam...? Who Cares about Spam if your even semi-competent you can easily eliminate 99% of it using filters( no really... just spend 1/2 an hour setting up some text filter and you'll never see it again...). And to me Spam is just another form of advertising, think about all those phone calls you get (maybe not in the US anymore because of the do-not-call list but in other countries anyway) that you don�t want and that some of them are scams and frauds yet, those people are never sentenced to jail, and furthermore, how could you possibly be scammed by a spammer? Their scams aren�t exactly brilliant... If you really were then you sort of deserve it.
This guy should be freed from jail, and Anti Spam law Re-Written.

I hope that spammers do get punished. They are worse than telemarketers anymore, and I am tired of having to weed through all the junk they send. Even the best filters do not eliminate ALL spam. They waste valuable work time and personal time, and because both are a precious commodity, they should be severely punished. People in this world need to start taking responsibility for their bad decisions and inappropriate actions. The laws/courts that enforce them NEED to be tougher! Maybe it is me, but it seems that criminals have more rights than law-abiding citizens these days and that is just plain WRONG! What kind of message does THAT send? This person knew what he was doing was inappropriate and should be punished accordingly.

I think spammers should get jail time. They waste everybody's precious time and money. However, 9 years seems a little extreme.

It should be noted that his sentencing also was based on the type spams sent, specifically that he was running a confidence scheme with the "FedEx refund" angle, which made him $9 million USD a year.
I count that as fraud, I work for a living and will probably never see that kind of money.

Regarding Graham's comment -- the guy *does* have a spam filter. That's how he knows he gets 10,000 spam emails a day to the domain he administers for his server(s). That brings up the fact that we need to realize as well. Spam hurts the Internet Service Providers as much or more as it hurts the end users. Even if all of the spam got filtered before you, as an end-user saw it, it still increases the cost of your internet connection because of the *huge* amount of bandwidth it sucks up before it gets filtered out at the ISP level.

Just got to say one other thing to the guy that gets 10000 spam emails a day - GET A SPAM FILTER FOR GOODNESS SAKE! You know what goes on out there, so get some protection. Safe sex - use a condom, safe internet - virus checker and spam filter.

I think it's too much. Before war, the place I live (ex Yugoslavia) was a communist country, and such sentece you could get only if you brutally kill person, yet we had the lowest percent of murders in the Europe.Life prison sentence you could get only if you kill president of communist party. I get a dozen of spam every day; I think spam is warning for us all to increase internet security,not to prison people.Fraud? I have never been frauded.(Banks do it every day when they take your house for morgage; CocaCola distructs liver,f.exp.)

SPAM is a nuisance sure and it uses up bandwidth, but 9 years! Come on people get real, there are far more serious crimes out there going unpunished. What next, 10 years for junk mail in the post?

Jail should be mandatory for spammers, at least until the technology is in place to prevent unsolicited email. Fines won't deter spammers one bit. For them, it will simply be written off as the cost of doing business. If the jails are overcrowded, get rid of the stupid drug laws and all the related drug crimes go away. Plenty of room for spammers! Email is a vital means of communication that spammers are destroying. How many real, possibly important emails have you deleted by mistake when you were deleting your spam? That's right, you don't even know.

To Padwanna's comment: I think the problem is that we let murderers and rapists walk, not that we lock up spammers.

The internet is one big "party line". It was formed for the exchange of ideas. If you don't have the sense to protect yourself while you are there, you shouldn't attach to it. The biggest spammers that I have noticed are the so called "legal businesses" who want to take over ownership!

So we let murderers and rapists walk, but send spammers to prison! And people think this is acceptable! Sure he may be guilty of being a pain in the butt, but nobody ever died from spam, so why is he going to prison for 9 years? It's ridiculous and wrong, and whats more appalling is that in general people think this is fair and right!

He knew he was sending unwanted stuff in an manner that was an intrusion to people's privacy. His hated product made him a hated man. He and all spammers need to have their hands cut off and their customers need to be made to pay for the inconvenience they have caused millions of people.

It is ridiculous to sentance a man to jail Period for spamming. It is a pain, yes, but Jail. Jails are already over crowded and cost the tax payers big bucks. Set guidlines, give big financial violations, but don't waste my money on jailing spammers. I'll delte it when it comes my way.

This guy was an respective admin on our site..he was called hal0 till 1 day he diddnt showed up in my aimlist and i heart about this i checked everithing.. and yeah it was him. this is so cool!

It is so sad e-mail is INFECTED by all of those parasit scumbag spammers (just count the time we lose every day deleting it!) than I would be VERY HAPPY he would be jailed (for life would be better but well...)

But for sure some judge will tell this is not fair... Come on, USA, you are slaved to judges!!!. Wake up!!!

Well itâ??s all fun and games with sizable profit until you get caught! 9 years in jail is probably a minute fraction of the collective time it took for the recipients of the unsolicited and often offensive e-mails to be deleted. (In many cases, he would have also been sending pornography or links thereof to thousands of minors).

I for one am sick and tired of having to continuously delete obviously unsolicited e-mails that are sent out in bulk to anyone and everyone with no means of being removed from such mail lists. Guide lines have been legislated all over the world defining what constitutes SPAM. Spammers know better than anyone else these rules and flaunt complete contempt for local recipient laws. If no stance is made, no progress will be made in SPAM elimination or at the very least compliance with recipient country laws. Add on fraud or distribution of Malware and you have very malicious acts.

Just considering what this guy has done, he got off lightly!

This is the best news I've heard in ages related to spamming. I think there ought to be more of these laws, and more convictions to go with them. The world has done little to police the Internet and bring those to justice that screw it up for the rest of us. The Internet used to be a civil place some years back but a few have brought it into disrepute and should be punished.

What we need from the legal system to provide a disincentive to spam is many more convictions, but perhaps with more reasonable sentences. It is the likelihood of getting convicted that will deter spammers from starting; not a few high profile cases, which often get overturned on appeal.

i think not very good

I own and run a high class ebusiness web server and get 10,000 spams sent to our domain per day.That takes a considerable amount of bandwidth which we pay for. Guys like this Need to be locked up as they are corrupting a vital information system we all depend on. I say give this guy a life sentence.

I would like to see them make a distinction between fraud and SPAM. For fraud I agree with longer jail sentences. I do not agree for the SPAM component. Although I understand that SPAM is wrong, I don't think that 10 years is appropriate. Second ... Who defines what SPAM is. Third... Will our Civil Liberties ever be at risk through potential expliotation of this legistlation? I think that there are other solutions for SPAM (charging piecemeal (sp?)) Fraud is one thing - SPAM is another.

I only wish this man goes to prison for the 9 years that were recommended. Maybe he'll start noticing, along with others of his kind, beyond the fact that the kind of mails he has been sending are part of large fraud scheemes, that they are also a major daily nuisance, a pain for most, if not all users of email. Jail! For, 9 years, more if he does it again!!!!