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	<title>Comments on: Spammer Jeremy Jaynes Gets 9 Year Jail Sentence</title>
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		<title>By: Spam Hater</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spam Hater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jun 2005 03:49:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this Spammer Lover Judge Thomas Horne that dismissed the sentense should have his Phone number, mailing address and email address posted publically so all the spammers, junk mailers and teleterrorists can flood his spammer loving butt with teleterrorist calls, junk mail and spam.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this Spammer Lover Judge Thomas Horne that dismissed the sentense should have his Phone number, mailing address and email address posted publically so all the spammers, junk mailers and teleterrorists can flood his spammer loving butt with teleterrorist calls, junk mail and spam.</p>
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		<title>By: penguin</title>
		<link>http://news.techwhack.com/1104-10042005-spammer-jeremy-jaynes-gets-9-year-jail-sentence#comment-1899</link>
		<dc:creator>penguin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Apr 2005 10:06:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have an idea to get help get rid of these spammers. Using &quot;the curse of google&quot;. Whenever google changes its logo on its websites front page to a search link, the site at the top usually gets a hell of a lot more traffic than expected and goes down. Surely google could link to a search that puts one of the spam sites at the top and take it down. It would be like google in command of a big army. Or they could put a little link that says to be cautious of a certain site. If it&#039;s on google&#039;s front page then the ammount of clicks would be immense.

penguin666</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have an idea to get help get rid of these spammers. Using &#8220;the curse of google&#8221;. Whenever google changes its logo on its websites front page to a search link, the site at the top usually gets a hell of a lot more traffic than expected and goes down. Surely google could link to a search that puts one of the spam sites at the top and take it down. It would be like google in command of a big army. Or they could put a little link that says to be cautious of a certain site. If it&#8217;s on google&#8217;s front page then the ammount of clicks would be immense.</p>
<p>penguin666</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
		<link>http://news.techwhack.com/1104-10042005-spammer-jeremy-jaynes-gets-9-year-jail-sentence#comment-1851</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:15:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see so many comments about getting nine years for sending spam and deserving it, or, getting nine years for sending spam while rapists, murderers, and the like get a slap on the wrist. If you look at the actual crimes committed, Jeremy was convicted of fraud in which he was generating $750,000 a month through illegal activities. While SPAM is at the center of the debate, the real crime is that so many viewers have not read past the headlines and have turned it into a debate about a separate issue. If SPAM were a crime punishable by imprisonment, many corporate execs would change their company policies overnight. I don&#039;t see that happening anytime soon but the millions of Americans who have lost money to fraud will applaud the day that Jeremy serves out his sentence.
For those who feel that Jeremy did nothing wrong and should be acquitted, send a check or money order to his defense attorney and pick up some mustard or ketchup to go with your plate of SPAM!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see so many comments about getting nine years for sending spam and deserving it, or, getting nine years for sending spam while rapists, murderers, and the like get a slap on the wrist. If you look at the actual crimes committed, Jeremy was convicted of fraud in which he was generating $750,000 a month through illegal activities. While SPAM is at the center of the debate, the real crime is that so many viewers have not read past the headlines and have turned it into a debate about a separate issue. If SPAM were a crime punishable by imprisonment, many corporate execs would change their company policies overnight. I don&#8217;t see that happening anytime soon but the millions of Americans who have lost money to fraud will applaud the day that Jeremy serves out his sentence.<br />
For those who feel that Jeremy did nothing wrong and should be acquitted, send a check or money order to his defense attorney and pick up some mustard or ketchup to go with your plate of SPAM!</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
		<link>http://news.techwhack.com/1104-10042005-spammer-jeremy-jaynes-gets-9-year-jail-sentence#comment-1796</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Apr 2005 16:44:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For those of you who think it serves him rights. Have you all gone completly mad? We&#039;re talking freaking NINE (9) YEARS!!! I mean, getting butt-raped for 9 months is cruel and unusual punishment for the type of &#039;crime&#039; he committed. Damn, it could be your own stupid brother who tries sending some mail. Who would have seen 9 years coming? Who is the injured party anyway? I mean, how much harm can he have caused those people? I get spam every freaking day, and how much harm does it cause me? I&#039;d wish noone get 9 years. I think a fine or something would be more reasonable. Better yet, communal service, because that benefits us all. Now he&#039;s going to COST US, because you know what? The penetentary system is not free, tax payer!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For those of you who think it serves him rights. Have you all gone completly mad? We&#8217;re talking freaking NINE (9) YEARS!!! I mean, getting butt-raped for 9 months is cruel and unusual punishment for the type of &#8216;crime&#8217; he committed. Damn, it could be your own stupid brother who tries sending some mail. Who would have seen 9 years coming? Who is the injured party anyway? I mean, how much harm can he have caused those people? I get spam every freaking day, and how much harm does it cause me? I&#8217;d wish noone get 9 years. I think a fine or something would be more reasonable. Better yet, communal service, because that benefits us all. Now he&#8217;s going to COST US, because you know what? The penetentary system is not free, tax payer!</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://news.techwhack.com/1104-10042005-spammer-jeremy-jaynes-gets-9-year-jail-sentence#comment-1775</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Apr 2005 15:33:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cocidering he made a huge amount of money in just a short amount of time I think it should be concidered fraud. Mr. Jaynes should go to jail for 9 years and he should be forced to pay a huge fine and SPAMMER should be tatooed on his forehead and remain there while he is in jail and two years afterward. After the two years he can get it removed at his expense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cocidering he made a huge amount of money in just a short amount of time I think it should be concidered fraud. Mr. Jaynes should go to jail for 9 years and he should be forced to pay a huge fine and SPAMMER should be tatooed on his forehead and remain there while he is in jail and two years afterward. After the two years he can get it removed at his expense.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Apr 2005 15:32:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A better punishment would be to make him send an apology to everyone he spammed one at a time 10,000 a day for how many days/years he spammed and must be hand typed not copy and pasted. Also pay whatever he earned to charity. That&#039;ll learn em durn em.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A better punishment would be to make him send an apology to everyone he spammed one at a time 10,000 a day for how many days/years he spammed and must be hand typed not copy and pasted. Also pay whatever he earned to charity. That&#8217;ll learn em durn em.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Lawson</title>
		<link>http://news.techwhack.com/1104-10042005-spammer-jeremy-jaynes-gets-9-year-jail-sentence#comment-1773</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Lawson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Apr 2005 15:30:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t quite understand what he has been convicted for. Has he been given 9 years for sending emails to people who didnt request it or is it for tricking people into buying things that didn&#039;t exist or something. Was he the one running the fraud in the emails or did he sell his service of spamming to other people who were commiting the fraud?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t quite understand what he has been convicted for. Has he been given 9 years for sending emails to people who didnt request it or is it for tricking people into buying things that didn&#8217;t exist or something. Was he the one running the fraud in the emails or did he sell his service of spamming to other people who were commiting the fraud?</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Apr 2005 15:29:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The whole thing is one endless scam. You start with greedy amoral bastards ramming their garbage down the throats of everyone on the internet. Next, you have greedy amoral bastards collecting Ã¢??protection moneyÃ¢?? to block the first group of bastards. This second group doesnÃ¢??t want spam to actually stop because then they would have to get real jobs. Now we have a judge weighing in on the case. He wants to make it look like his paycheck is justified, but at the same time he doesnÃ¢??t want to actually stop the crime because that would cut into his paycheck. (The real reason why the courts let so many thieves, rapists and murderers off with little or no punishment is because if they did the right thing for society then we would only need 1/3 the judges/lawyers that we have now. Everybody wants their cut). The final part of the problem as to why the spam/spyware problem isnÃ¢??t going away is because so many so-called Ã¢??legitimateÃ¢?? organizations want to use it (like somehow their s*** smells better). They donÃ¢??t mind the billions of dollars this plague is costing the economy as long as they get their own message out.

Instead of protecting society, the wolves are figuring out the best way to divide the sheep in order to maximize their own personal profit. The spammer will make their money from spamming, the spam filters will block just enough spam to make you pay for their service, the courts will prosecute just enough to justify adding a few more $100,000/year lawyers to their staff, and the marketing director at the dildo-factory will get his bonus.  Everyone will be happy except the 99.99% of us who just want to read our email in peace. 

If we really wanted to eliminate spam, we could do it in six months:
1)	Pass zero-tolerance laws for unsolicited email. $10,000 and 1 day in prison for the Board of directors for each infraction (10 million spams per day- you do the math).
2)	Pass laws to put 100% of the onus on proving that you are not a spammer onto the spammer. This trend of spammers suing spam filtering and spyware removal companies in order to force these companies to let the spammerÃ¢??s garbage through or spyware remain is asinine.  My computer is my property and I should have the uncontested right to buy a product to remove any damn program I want. 
3)	Widespread use of services such as Ã¢??make love not spamÃ¢?? which would allow us to DOS those spamming bastards into oblivion.
4)	Full-scale blocking of IP addresses from known spammers.
5)	Holding people legally accountable for what comes from their own computer. If some idiot doesnÃ¢??t bother to put in the latest security patches and as a result spammers take over his computer and use it to distribute their crap, then that idiot should face some consequences.

I have nothing against solicited advertising. (my week would not be complete without knowing the latest one-way cost of a plane ticket to Fiji). But if email is to remain a useful tool, spam must be crushed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The whole thing is one endless scam. You start with greedy amoral bastards ramming their garbage down the throats of everyone on the internet. Next, you have greedy amoral bastards collecting Ã¢??protection moneyÃ¢?? to block the first group of bastards. This second group doesnÃ¢??t want spam to actually stop because then they would have to get real jobs. Now we have a judge weighing in on the case. He wants to make it look like his paycheck is justified, but at the same time he doesnÃ¢??t want to actually stop the crime because that would cut into his paycheck. (The real reason why the courts let so many thieves, rapists and murderers off with little or no punishment is because if they did the right thing for society then we would only need 1/3 the judges/lawyers that we have now. Everybody wants their cut). The final part of the problem as to why the spam/spyware problem isnÃ¢??t going away is because so many so-called Ã¢??legitimateÃ¢?? organizations want to use it (like somehow their s*** smells better). They donÃ¢??t mind the billions of dollars this plague is costing the economy as long as they get their own message out.</p>
<p>Instead of protecting society, the wolves are figuring out the best way to divide the sheep in order to maximize their own personal profit. The spammer will make their money from spamming, the spam filters will block just enough spam to make you pay for their service, the courts will prosecute just enough to justify adding a few more $100,000/year lawyers to their staff, and the marketing director at the dildo-factory will get his bonus.  Everyone will be happy except the 99.99% of us who just want to read our email in peace. </p>
<p>If we really wanted to eliminate spam, we could do it in six months:<br />
1)	Pass zero-tolerance laws for unsolicited email. $10,000 and 1 day in prison for the Board of directors for each infraction (10 million spams per day- you do the math).<br />
2)	Pass laws to put 100% of the onus on proving that you are not a spammer onto the spammer. This trend of spammers suing spam filtering and spyware removal companies in order to force these companies to let the spammerÃ¢??s garbage through or spyware remain is asinine.  My computer is my property and I should have the uncontested right to buy a product to remove any damn program I want.<br />
3)	Widespread use of services such as Ã¢??make love not spamÃ¢?? which would allow us to DOS those spamming bastards into oblivion.<br />
4)	Full-scale blocking of IP addresses from known spammers.<br />
5)	Holding people legally accountable for what comes from their own computer. If some idiot doesnÃ¢??t bother to put in the latest security patches and as a result spammers take over his computer and use it to distribute their crap, then that idiot should face some consequences.</p>
<p>I have nothing against solicited advertising. (my week would not be complete without knowing the latest one-way cost of a plane ticket to Fiji). But if email is to remain a useful tool, spam must be crushed.</p>
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		<title>By: J. McCampbell</title>
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		<dc:creator>J. McCampbell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Apr 2005 15:28:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Coming from the perspective of someone who has been in jail, a nine year sentence is highly inappropriate.  Spam is wrong, a serious annoyance, but, on an individual basis, no more than that.  Now, on a larger scale, ISP providers lose millions dealing with the problem.  Assign a monetary value to the crime, and make him start paying it back by working on spam filters or other research.  In jail, WE pay for his every need, and nine years will ruin most white collar criminals.  In jail there is no way for society to reclaim it&#039;s due.  On probation, with court ordered work in exchange for the fine, society may be able to get something in return.  To put a guy in jail for sending too many emails, that is a waste of my money, and of his life.  Although, most ISP Providers would love to see spammers get butt-raped for nine years, I think that it&#039;s a little extreme.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Coming from the perspective of someone who has been in jail, a nine year sentence is highly inappropriate.  Spam is wrong, a serious annoyance, but, on an individual basis, no more than that.  Now, on a larger scale, ISP providers lose millions dealing with the problem.  Assign a monetary value to the crime, and make him start paying it back by working on spam filters or other research.  In jail, WE pay for his every need, and nine years will ruin most white collar criminals.  In jail there is no way for society to reclaim it&#8217;s due.  On probation, with court ordered work in exchange for the fine, society may be able to get something in return.  To put a guy in jail for sending too many emails, that is a waste of my money, and of his life.  Although, most ISP Providers would love to see spammers get butt-raped for nine years, I think that it&#8217;s a little extreme.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Apr 2005 15:08:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>9 years, not enough time! Phishers are Spam + Fraud by misrepresentation, Spam is how you received it. 
Besides, I would guess this being a non-violent crime, he would never 
serve the entire sentence. Therefore I say make it 15 years and no parole. Remember, the longer he is in jail, the longer he can&#039;t spam all of us again. I consider that a big benifit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>9 years, not enough time! Phishers are Spam + Fraud by misrepresentation, Spam is how you received it.<br />
Besides, I would guess this being a non-violent crime, he would never<br />
serve the entire sentence. Therefore I say make it 15 years and no parole. Remember, the longer he is in jail, the longer he can&#8217;t spam all of us again. I consider that a big benifit.</p>
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